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Ellen on Bio-chemical waste

Posted: Oct 29, 2010 3:35 pm
by AddisonTea
HeartHer wrote:
AddisonTea wrote:All this and they won't legalize pot.
:eek:

Huh? There's a missing link in the path to this comment. In California we might legalize it soon. I hope we do, not because we I smoke (I never have, never will) but because the government can tax and regulate it which would greatly help California's huge debt problem.

Good to see she's still pursuing this though, I really hope they make a big enough stink (or I guess the whole point of this is to get rid of a big stink soooo) that companies are afraid to spread the use of such soil to other places.

Right a missing link. Since Biochemical waste is being used in soil and whatnot- people make money off of that too. Lots of money. Whilst Marijuana is profitable it is illegal in nearly every state. I smoked it and loved it. On the other side of the coin, Bio waste is profitable and legal.... my point.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2010 1:37 am
by HeartHer
AddisonTea wrote:
HeartHer wrote:
AddisonTea wrote:All this and they won't legalize pot.
:eek:

Huh? There's a missing link in the path to this comment. In California we might legalize it soon. I hope we do, not because I smoke (I never have, never will) but because the government can tax and regulate it which would greatly help California's huge debt problem.

Good to see she's still pursuing this though, I really hope they make a big enough stink (or I guess the whole point of this is to get rid of a big stink soooo) that companies are afraid to spread the use of such soil to other places.

Right a missing link. Since Biochemical waste is being used in soil and whatnot- people make money off of that too. Lots of money. Whilst Marijuana is profitable it is illegal in nearly every state. I smoked it and loved it. On the other side of the coin, Bio waste is profitable and legal.... my point.
Oh yeah I see what you're saying you just kinda jumped from Biowaste to marijuana and I got confused :longtongue:. I don't want to smoke but I think it should be legalized, the number of people using it will hardly increase considering how easy it is to get now anyway. It'd be cheaper too since there won't be money going through drug lords, smugglers, and dealers, just straight from government to store. At significantly lower prices there'd be plenty room to tax it and produce a huge profit for the state of California.

It's not illegal in "nearly" every state however, it's just illegal in every state, period.

This is also a general health concern though so it's a bit more important.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2010 1:56 am
by JimH
:offtopic: Folks, remember this a thread on Bio-chemical waste - not wasted :cheekygrin:

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Posted: Oct 30, 2010 2:02 am
by HeartHer
JimH wrote::offtopic: Folks, remember this a thread on Bio-chemical waste - not wasted :cheekygrin:
Sorrrrry :biggrin: , we did spend the posts trying to connect their statement back to the thread so it was kinda on topic :p.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2010 2:48 am
by UCFRdWarrior
Hey...I was at the Park Lane theatre earlier this summer....amazing they can squeeze a multiplex cinema in the basement of a urban shopping mall :biggrin:

Hope that Ellen and her friends can raise some awareness about the stinkwater. Gosh, is Ellen superactive on all the environments, or what :)

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Posted: Oct 30, 2010 5:06 am
by HeartHer
UCFRdWarrior wrote:Hey...I was at the Park Lane theatre earlier this summer....amazing they can squeeze a multiplex cinema in the basement of a urban shopping mall :biggrin:

Hope that Ellen and her friends can raise some awareness about the stinkwater. Gosh, is Ellen superactive on all the environments, or what :)
Vanishing of the Bees, 350, and this all at the same time... yup pretty much :p. I don't know how she finds the time I'm sure she's a lot busier than me and I only manage to do two of those things and not nearly as much as her.

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Posted: Oct 31, 2010 2:11 am
by JimH
The Nova Scotia Environment Network (NSEN) has provided a very comprehensive list of background studies here:
http://www.nsen.ca/biosolids.php
The NSEN mining caucus is opposed to the land application of biosolids because we believe that the product is inadequately tested for pathogens and carcinogens and poses a threat to agricultural land, farm animals, food, water and public health. We are a group of concerned citizens including environmentalists, organic farmers, concerned consumers, and health professionals. We also think that the governments, both municipal and provincial, are not adequately explaining the risks of this practice. The provincial government's 2004 Guidelines For Land Application and Storage of Biosolids in Nova Scotia outline the requirements for testing and reporting on biosolids but are only voluntary.
The Nova Scotia Environmental Network’s Biosolids Caucus chair, Dr. Marilyn Cameron, will be on hand during the complimentary screening of Mario Desmarais’ SLUDGE DIET to help address some of the serious concerns pertaining to the land application of biosolids from the Halifax Sewage Treatment Plant, and other sources, on agricultural land in the province.

Ellen is co-hosting this event with Lil MacPherson of the Wooden Monkey on Sunday, November 7th 2010 showing at 7pm at the Park Lane Theatre on Spring Garden Road in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

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Posted: Nov 05, 2010 3:13 pm
by JimH
From: Rick's Rants Friday November 5th/2010, http://www.halifaxnewsnet.ca/Blog-Artic ... er-5th2010
Oscar nominee and Halifax native Ellen Page is inviting us all to the screening of a film Sunday night looking at the contentious issue of human waste used as fertilizer. The industry calls it biosolids, critics call it sewage sludge. It's a by-product of the city's new sewage treatment plants. The sludge is converted into fertilizer at a facility in the Aerotech Industrial Park and sold on the open market. Page calls it dangerous and has lent her voice to those warning it's just not safe for humans. Indeed, both Sobey's and Atlantic Superstore have let it be known they will not knowingly accept local produce grown using it, despite industry and city assurances it is safe to use. Page is coming to town this weekend to host a screening of a documentary called Sludge Diet at 7pm at the Park Lane cinema on Spring Garden Road. Everyone's invited.
Also: http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1210405.html
Page hosting documentary screening on dangers of using sewage fertilizer
..................She has helped to arrange, and is hosting, a documentary screening and discussion Sunday at 7 p.m. at the Park Lane theatres in Halifax that she hopes will bring more awareness to a topic she cares passionately about.

"The more I learned about it, the more mindful I became that it seems that it could be potentially quite, quite detrimental to Nova Scotia," Page said in a telephone interview from Los Angeles on Thursday.

"And I don’t feel like N-Viro (the company producing fertilizer containing sewage sludge) is really being incredibly factual, nor is the Nova Scotia government. And I just think it’s important. Having the screening and speaking out has nothing to do with creating conflict. It has absolutely nothing to do with creating a fight.

"It’s truly about being mindful that this is hurting the Earth and hurting the citizens of Nova Scotia."

But while Page said she isn’t picking a fight, she seems to be getting one.

N-Viro Systems Canada president Rob Sampson disputes her conclusions. And some media and Internet commentators have questioned her qualifications to speak publicly about biosolids.

"This is why I’m having this event," Page said.

"I talk out about my personal concerns as a citizen of Nova Scotia, and then I’ve received, I think, a lot of response of, you know, ‘Oh, she’s just an actor, she doesn’t know what she’s talking about,’ and quite frankly, no, I’m not a scientist . . . I’m not a doctor . . . but I do believe that I very much have the right to care about the Earth and citizens of Nova Scotia and want a whole truth to exist." ......................................................

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Posted: Nov 06, 2010 5:06 am
by Glee Plane
I listened to Ellen's radio appearance and thought that she did an great job in arguing for her cause. I hope the screening on Sunday is a success.

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Posted: Nov 08, 2010 2:36 am
by Kevin Kumar-Misir
I went to the Screening! it was such a great film, lots of information! unfortunately Ellen was busy in LA and the weather also prevented her to come to Halifax :(
All in All there was a great message to be given out and I enjoyed it. Lil MacPherson of the Wooden Monkey Hosted the event. There was a petition against Bio-Chem Waste that was signed at the screening and also an Info sheet for information on a future conference on the Bio-Chem Waste with Ellen Page and the rest of the crew. Also Microbiologist, Dr. David Lewis could not make it because his wife was sick :(

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Posted: Nov 08, 2010 3:46 am
by HeartHer
Kevin Kumar-Misir wrote:I went to the Screening! it was such a great film, lots of information! unfortunately Ellen was busy in LA and the weather also prevented her to come to Halifax :(
All in All there was a great message to be given out and I enjoyed it. Lil MacPherson of the Wooden Monkey Hosted the event. There was a petition against Bio-Chem Waste that was signed at the screening and also an Info sheet for information on a future conference on the Bio-Chem Waste with Ellen Page and the rest of the crew. Also Microbiologist, Dr. David Lewis could not make it because his wife was sick :(
She's still here then eh? Hmmm perhaps she'll be at the 350 event I'm going to on Sunday then. Damn that'd be amazing.

I'm interested to see the film, I'll keep an eye out to see if it comes down to the States.

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Posted: Nov 17, 2010 4:22 pm
by JimH
An update from:
JENNIFER TAPLIN
METRO HALIFAX
Published: November 17, 2010 12:38 a.m.
Last modified: November 17, 2010 12:58 a.m.
http://www.metronews.ca/halifax/local/a ... it-the-fan
In the end, councillors voted to have Halifax Water study the issue further.

Carl Yates, manager of Halifax Water, said his organization is already studying the option of burning waste for energy use.

Coun. Steve Streatch said support for biosolid fertilizer likely would have been approved yesterday had not “local actresses (Ellen Page) and restaurant owners (Lil MacPherson)” spoken out on the issue.

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Posted: Nov 18, 2010 1:11 am
by HeartHer
JimH wrote:An update from:
JENNIFER TAPLIN
METRO HALIFAX
Published: November 17, 2010 12:38 a.m.
Last modified: November 17, 2010 12:58 a.m.
http://www.metronews.ca/halifax/local/a ... it-the-fan
In the end, councillors voted to have Halifax Water study the issue further.

Carl Yates, manager of Halifax Water, said his organization is already studying the option of burning waste for energy use.

Coun. Steve Streatch said support for biosolid fertilizer likely would have been approved yesterday had not “local actresses (Ellen Page) and restaurant owners (Lil MacPherson)” spoken out on the issue.
Wooooo go Ellen, making a difference! Really shows what a couple of people who care can do

Really the whole deal with Biosolids comes down to what I say for every environmental issue: why not just make Earth a better place? Even if Ellen was completely wrong and there was nothing dangerous about using Biosolids as fertilizer, it still smells terrible and makes people sick. The modern reasoning of needing 100% factual proof before taking precautions is absurd. Just like with air pollution, even if it turned out global warming was complete BS the air worldwide is still dirty and is a constant health risk. I'll never understand the logic that goes through people's minds when they oppose eco-friendly ideas.

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Posted: Nov 18, 2010 4:07 am
by Glee Plane
HeartHer wrote:Wooooo go Ellen, making a difference! Really shows what a couple of people who care can do

Really the whole deal with Biosolids comes down to what I say for every environmental issue: why not just make Earth a better place? Even if Ellen was completely wrong and there was nothing dangerous about using Biosolids as fertilizer, it still smells terrible and makes people sick. The modern reasoning of needing 100% factual proof before taking precautions is absurd. Just like with air pollution, even if it turned out global warming was complete BS the air worldwide is still dirty and is a constant health risk. I'll never understand the logic that goes through people's minds when they oppose eco-friendly ideas.
I completely agree. :yes:

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Posted: Dec 05, 2010 8:07 pm
by JimH
Ellen's latest comments? Article is new but Ellen's words sound familiar.
Halifax poop controversy stirs emotions of politicians and Ellen Page
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada ... 47359.html
Page, a Halifax native and environmental activist, came under some criticism after she came out strongly against the use of biosolids.
"I'm always getting that, 'Oh, look at the young actress. She's not a scientist, blah, blah, blah!'" Page said in a telephone interview from Los Angeles.
"Of course I'm not a scientist but I'm allowed to have common sense and care about the planet," she said, adding that Halifax is still her primary residence.
Page, who was nominated for an Oscar Award, says she has no desire to create drama or make anyone look bad but she does have concerns about sewage sludge — even after it is treated.
"It's taking all the waste of our current society with its sickness and toxicity. That's what they're treating in a very short amount of time and what they are saying is safe and, quite frankly, I don't believe it."

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Posted: Dec 06, 2010 12:20 am
by Dominik
JimH wrote:Ellen's latest comments? Article is new but Ellen's words sound familiar.
Correct :agreeing: John Lewandowski from The Canadian Press refers to the interview Ellen gave to News 95.7 on November 4, 2010. I'm surprised the press didn't make use of it earlier. The fact that Halifax's city council has put the use of biosolids on hold until the results of an external assessment are in hand can be considered a small victory, I guess.

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Posted: Dec 06, 2010 7:33 am
by UCFRdWarrior
I kinda wish they would stop referring to this as "poop" because it is more than just...well....ya know. Its the other harmful materials that this sewer sludge contains...especially toxic and medical waste. And, good that Ellen is making this an issue

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Posted: Dec 06, 2010 7:58 am
by HeartHer
UCFRdWarrior wrote:I kinda wish they would stop referring to this as "poop" because it is more than just...well....ya know. Its the other harmful materials that this sewer sludge contains...especially toxic and medical waste. And, good that Ellen is making this an issue
Yeah it's obscure bias at its best really. People will think all that's being used is poo and think "Well hell we use cow crap as manure why not put the human output to use?" They'll completely miss the point that toilet waste isn't all that ends up in the sewer. In fact there's literally no way to tell exactly what ends up in the sewer, any number of things could be down there and there's no way to chemically remove every possible contaminant from the sludge.

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Posted: Mar 10, 2011 2:12 pm
by JimH
The Nova Scotia Soil Conference, on March 13, 2011, is being co-organized by Ellen's friend, Lil MacPherson.
http://www.dominionpaper.ca/articles/3903
MacPherson was troubled that much of Halifax didn't know what happened to their waste once it went “flush.” Looking to plunge Haligonians into the light, she and long-time friend Ellen Page are staging an event coined The Nova Scotia Soil Conference, on March 13, 2011.

The purpose of the conference is to discuss whether Halifax Regional Municipality's (HRM) baked sludge is safe for soil application of any kind.

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Posted: Mar 10, 2011 8:58 pm
by Dominik
Thanks for posting this on the board, Jim. In addition, I'm going to add a banner in the info bar of the news page in a few minutes. I think it also should be mentioned that Ellen herself funds this conference :spendmoney: :thumbsup: